diff --git a/src/d_netcmd.c b/src/d_netcmd.c
index f08c7554..aa28524a 100644
--- a/src/d_netcmd.c
+++ b/src/d_netcmd.c
@@ -2522,18 +2522,12 @@ static void Command_Teamchange_f(void)
 		return;
 	}
 
-	if (G_GametypeHasTeams())
-	{
-		if (NetPacket.packet.newteam == (unsigned)players[consoleplayer].ctfteam ||
-			(players[consoleplayer].spectator && !NetPacket.packet.newteam))
-			error = true;
-	}
-	else if (G_GametypeHasSpectators())
-	{
-		if ((players[consoleplayer].spectator && !NetPacket.packet.newteam) ||
-			(!players[consoleplayer].spectator && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 3))
-			error = true;
-	}
+	if (players[consoleplayer].spectator && !(players[consoleplayer].pflags & PF_WANTSTOJOIN) && !NetPacket.packet.newteam)
+		error = true;
+	else if (G_GametypeHasTeams() && NetPacket.packet.newteam == (unsigned)players[consoleplayer].ctfteam)
+		error = true;
+	else if (G_GametypeHasSpectators() && !players[consoleplayer].spectator && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 3)
+		error = true;
 #ifdef PARANOIA
 	else
 		I_Error("Invalid gametype after initial checks!");
@@ -2619,18 +2613,12 @@ static void Command_Teamchange2_f(void)
 		return;
 	}
 
-	if (G_GametypeHasTeams())
-	{
-		if (NetPacket.packet.newteam == (unsigned)players[secondarydisplayplayer].ctfteam ||
-			(players[secondarydisplayplayer].spectator && !NetPacket.packet.newteam))
-			error = true;
-	}
-	else if (G_GametypeHasSpectators())
-	{
-		if ((players[secondarydisplayplayer].spectator && !NetPacket.packet.newteam) ||
-			(!players[secondarydisplayplayer].spectator && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 3))
-			error = true;
-	}
+	if (players[secondarydisplayplayer].spectator && !(players[secondarydisplayplayer].pflags & PF_WANTSTOJOIN) && !NetPacket.packet.newteam)
+		error = true;
+	else if (G_GametypeHasTeams() && NetPacket.packet.newteam == (unsigned)players[secondarydisplayplayer].ctfteam)
+		error = true;
+	else if (G_GametypeHasSpectators() && !players[secondarydisplayplayer].spectator && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 3)
+		error = true;
 #ifdef PARANOIA
 	else
 		I_Error("Invalid gametype after initial checks!");
@@ -2716,18 +2704,12 @@ static void Command_Teamchange3_f(void)
 		return;
 	}
 
-	if (G_GametypeHasTeams())
-	{
-		if (NetPacket.packet.newteam == (unsigned)players[thirddisplayplayer].ctfteam ||
-			(players[thirddisplayplayer].spectator && !NetPacket.packet.newteam))
-			error = true;
-	}
-	else if (G_GametypeHasSpectators())
-	{
-		if ((players[thirddisplayplayer].spectator && !NetPacket.packet.newteam) ||
-			(!players[thirddisplayplayer].spectator && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 3))
-			error = true;
-	}
+	if (players[thirddisplayplayer].spectator && !(players[thirddisplayplayer].pflags & PF_WANTSTOJOIN) && !NetPacket.packet.newteam)
+		error = true;
+	else if (G_GametypeHasTeams() && NetPacket.packet.newteam == (unsigned)players[thirddisplayplayer].ctfteam)
+		error = true;
+	else if (G_GametypeHasSpectators() && !players[thirddisplayplayer].spectator && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 3)
+		error = true;
 #ifdef PARANOIA
 	else
 		I_Error("Invalid gametype after initial checks!");
@@ -2813,18 +2795,12 @@ static void Command_Teamchange4_f(void)
 		return;
 	}
 
-	if (G_GametypeHasTeams())
-	{
-		if (NetPacket.packet.newteam == (unsigned)players[fourthdisplayplayer].ctfteam ||
-			(players[fourthdisplayplayer].spectator && !NetPacket.packet.newteam))
-			error = true;
-	}
-	else if (G_GametypeHasSpectators())
-	{
-		if ((players[fourthdisplayplayer].spectator && !NetPacket.packet.newteam) ||
-			(!players[fourthdisplayplayer].spectator && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 3))
-			error = true;
-	}
+	if (players[fourthdisplayplayer].spectator && !(players[fourthdisplayplayer].pflags & PF_WANTSTOJOIN) && !NetPacket.packet.newteam)
+		error = true;
+	else if (G_GametypeHasTeams() && NetPacket.packet.newteam == (unsigned)players[fourthdisplayplayer].ctfteam)
+		error = true;
+	else if (G_GametypeHasSpectators() && !players[fourthdisplayplayer].spectator && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 3)
+		error = true;
 #ifdef PARANOIA
 	else
 		I_Error("Invalid gametype after initial checks!");
@@ -3024,24 +3000,23 @@ static void Got_Teamchange(UINT8 **cp, INT32 playernum)
 	}
 
 	// Prevent multiple changes in one go.
-	if (G_TagGametype())
+	if (players[playernum].spectator && !(players[playernum].pflags & PF_WANTSTOJOIN) && !NetPacket.packet.newteam)
+		return;
+	else if (G_TagGametype())
 	{
 		if (((players[playernum].pflags & PF_TAGIT) && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 1) ||
 			(!(players[playernum].pflags & PF_TAGIT) && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 2) ||
-			(players[playernum].spectator && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 0) ||
 			(!players[playernum].spectator && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 3))
 			return;
 	}
 	else if (G_GametypeHasTeams())
 	{
-		if ((NetPacket.packet.newteam && (NetPacket.packet.newteam == (unsigned)players[playernum].ctfteam)) ||
-			(players[playernum].spectator && !NetPacket.packet.newteam))
+		if (NetPacket.packet.newteam && (NetPacket.packet.newteam == (unsigned)players[playernum].ctfteam))
 			return;
 	}
 	else if (G_GametypeHasSpectators())
 	{
-		if ((players[playernum].spectator && !NetPacket.packet.newteam) ||
-			(!players[playernum].spectator && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 3))
+		if (!players[playernum].spectator && NetPacket.packet.newteam == 3)
 			return;
 	}
 	else
@@ -3113,19 +3088,26 @@ static void Got_Teamchange(UINT8 **cp, INT32 playernum)
 	}
 
 	//Safety first!
-	if (players[playernum].mo)
+	// (not respawning spectators here...)
+	if (!players[playernum].spectator)
 	{
-		if (!players[playernum].spectator)
-			P_DamageMobj(players[playernum].mo, NULL, NULL, 10000);
-		/*else
+		if (players[playernum].mo)
 		{
-			P_RemoveMobj(players[playernum].mo);
-			players[playernum].mo = NULL;
+			//if (!players[playernum].spectator)
+				P_DamageMobj(players[playernum].mo, NULL, NULL, 10000);
+			/*else
+			{
+				if (players[playernum].mo)
+				{
+					P_RemoveMobj(players[playernum].mo);
+					players[playernum].mo = NULL;
+				}
+				players[playernum].playerstate = PST_REBORN;
+			}*/
+		}
+		else
 			players[playernum].playerstate = PST_REBORN;
-		}*/
 	}
-	else
-		players[playernum].playerstate = PST_REBORN;
 
 	//Now that we've done our error checking and killed the player
 	//if necessary, put the player on the correct team/status.
@@ -3210,6 +3192,8 @@ static void Got_Teamchange(UINT8 **cp, INT32 playernum)
 	}
 	else if (NetPacket.packet.newteam == 3)
 		/*CONS_Printf(M_GetText("%s entered the game.\n"), player_names[playernum])*/;
+	else if (players[playernum].pflags & PF_WANTSTOJOIN)
+		players[playernum].pflags &= ~PF_WANTSTOJOIN;
 	else
 		CONS_Printf(M_GetText("%s became a spectator.\n"), player_names[playernum]);
 
diff --git a/src/g_game.c b/src/g_game.c
index cfd845d7..beb40ba5 100644
--- a/src/g_game.c
+++ b/src/g_game.c
@@ -2175,7 +2175,9 @@ void G_Ticker(boolean run)
 
 	if (run)
 	{
-		if (G_GametypeHasSpectators() && (gamestate == GS_LEVEL || gamestate == GS_INTERMISSION || gamestate == GS_VOTING))
+		if (G_GametypeHasSpectators()
+			&& (gamestate == GS_LEVEL || gamestate == GS_INTERMISSION || gamestate == GS_VOTING // definitely good
+			|| gamestate == GS_WAITINGPLAYERS)) // definitely a problem if we don't do it at all in this gamestate, but might need more protection?
 			K_CheckSpectateStatus();
 
 		if (pausedelay)
diff --git a/src/k_kart.c b/src/k_kart.c
index a0ace271..308435f2 100644
--- a/src/k_kart.c
+++ b/src/k_kart.c
@@ -1133,6 +1133,9 @@ void K_RespawnChecker(player_t *player)
 {
 	ticcmd_t *cmd = &player->cmd;
 
+	if (player->spectator)
+		return;
+
 	if (player->kartstuff[k_respawn] > 3)
 	{
 		player->kartstuff[k_respawn]--;
@@ -4058,40 +4061,65 @@ void K_CheckBumpers(void)
 void K_CheckSpectateStatus(void)
 {
 	UINT8 respawnlist[MAXPLAYERS];	
-	UINT8 i, no = 0;
-	UINT8 numingame = 0;
+	UINT8 i, numingame = 0, numjoiners = 0;
 
-    for (i = 0; i < MAXPLAYERS; i++)
-    {
-        if (!playeringame[i])
-            continue;
+	// Get the number of players in game, and the players to be de-spectated.
+	for (i = 0; i < MAXPLAYERS; i++)
+	{
+		if (!playeringame[i])
+			continue;
 
-        if (!players[i].spectator)
-        {
+		if (!players[i].spectator)
+		{
 			numingame++;
 			if (gamestate != GS_LEVEL)
                 continue;
 			if (numingame < 2)
                 continue;
-            if (G_RaceGametype() && players[i].laps > 0)
+            if (G_RaceGametype() && players[i].laps)
                 return;
-        }
+			continue;
+		}
+		else if (!(players[i].pflags & PF_WANTSTOJOIN))
+			continue;
 
-        if (cv_allowteamchange.value && !(players[i].pflags & PF_WANTSTOJOIN))
-            continue;
+		respawnlist[numjoiners++] = i;
+	}
 
-        respawnlist[no++] = i;
-    }
+	// literally zero point in going any further if nobody is joining
+	if (!numjoiners)
+		return;
+
+	// Check if there are any conditions that should prevent de-spectating.
+	// WHAT? NO, you just made it loop again, what's the point?!!
+	/*if ((gamestate == GS_LEVEL) && (numingame > 1))
+	{
+		// If anyone's on lap two or up in a race gametype, HALT.
+		if (G_RaceGametype())
+		{
+			for (i = 0; i < MAXPLAYERS; i++)
+			{
+				if (!playeringame[i] || players[i].spectator)
+					continue;
+
+				if (!players[i].laps)
+					continue;
+
+				return;
+			}
+		}
+	}*/
 
 	// Reset the match if you're in an empty server
-	if (gamestate == GS_LEVEL && (numingame < 2 && numingame+no >= 2))
+	if (gamestate == GS_LEVEL && (numingame < 2 && numingame+numjoiners >= 2))
 	{
 		CONS_Printf("Here comes a new challenger! Resetting map in 10 seconds...\n");
 		mapreset = 10*TICRATE; // Even though only the server uses this for game logic, set for everyone for HUD in the future
 	}
 
-	while (no)
-		P_SpectatorJoinGame(&players[respawnlist[--no]]);
+	// Finally, we can de-spectate everyone!
+	for (i = 0; i < numjoiners; i++)
+		P_SpectatorJoinGame(&players[respawnlist[i]]);
 }
 
 //}
diff --git a/src/m_menu.c b/src/m_menu.c
index a88ddfbd..48857e20 100644
--- a/src/m_menu.c
+++ b/src/m_menu.c
@@ -535,6 +535,7 @@ static menuitem_t MPauseMenu[] =
 
 	{IT_STRING | IT_CALL,    NULL, "Spectate",             M_ConfirmSpectate,     48},
 	{IT_STRING | IT_CALL,    NULL, "Enter Game",           M_ConfirmEnterGame,    48},
+	{IT_STRING | IT_CALL,    NULL, "Cancel Join",          M_ConfirmSpectate,     48},
 	{IT_STRING | IT_SUBMENU, NULL, "Switch Team...",       &MISC_ChangeTeamDef,   48},
 	{IT_CALL | IT_STRING,    NULL, "Player Setup...",      M_SetupMultiPlayer,    56}, // alone
 	{IT_CALL | IT_STRING,    NULL, "Options",              M_Options,             64},
@@ -557,6 +558,7 @@ typedef enum
 #endif
 	mpause_spectate,
 	mpause_entergame,
+	mpause_canceljoin,
 	mpause_switchteam,
 	mpause_psetup,
 	mpause_options,
@@ -2842,6 +2844,7 @@ void M_StartControlPanel(void)
 #endif
 		MPauseMenu[mpause_spectate].status = IT_DISABLED;
 		MPauseMenu[mpause_entergame].status = IT_DISABLED;
+		MPauseMenu[mpause_canceljoin].status = IT_DISABLED;
 		MPauseMenu[mpause_switchteam].status = IT_DISABLED;
 		MPauseMenu[mpause_psetup].status = IT_DISABLED;
 		// Reset these in case splitscreen messes things up
@@ -2889,7 +2892,14 @@ void M_StartControlPanel(void)
 			if (G_GametypeHasTeams())
 				MPauseMenu[mpause_switchteam].status = IT_STRING | IT_SUBMENU;
 			else if (G_GametypeHasSpectators())
-				MPauseMenu[((&players[consoleplayer] && players[consoleplayer].spectator) ? mpause_entergame : mpause_spectate)].status = IT_STRING | IT_CALL;
+			{
+				if (!players[consoleplayer].spectator)
+					MPauseMenu[mpause_spectate].status = IT_STRING | IT_CALL;
+				else if (players[consoleplayer].pflags & PF_WANTSTOJOIN)
+					MPauseMenu[mpause_canceljoin].status = IT_STRING | IT_CALL;
+				else
+					MPauseMenu[mpause_entergame].status = IT_STRING | IT_CALL;
+			}
 			else // in this odd case, we still want something to be on the menu even if it's useless
 				MPauseMenu[mpause_spectate].status = IT_GRAYEDOUT;
 		}
@@ -4207,11 +4217,11 @@ static void M_ConfirmSpectate(INT32 choice)
 static void M_ConfirmEnterGame(INT32 choice)
 {
 	(void)choice;
-	if (!cv_allowteamchange.value)
+	/*if (!cv_allowteamchange.value)
 	{
 		M_StartMessage(M_GetText("The server is not allowing\nteam changes at this time.\nPress a key.\n"), NULL, MM_NOTHING);
 		return;
-	}
+	}*/
 	M_ClearMenus(true);
 	COM_ImmedExecute("changeteam playing");
 }
diff --git a/src/p_mobj.c b/src/p_mobj.c
index e9603c43..6ee05e57 100644
--- a/src/p_mobj.c
+++ b/src/p_mobj.c
@@ -9830,8 +9830,12 @@ void P_SpawnPlayer(INT32 playernum)
 	// spawn as spectator determination
 	if (!G_GametypeHasSpectators())
 		p->spectator = false;
-	else if (netgame && p->jointime <= 1 && pcount > 1)
+	else if (netgame && p->jointime <= 1 && pcount)
+	{
 		p->spectator = true;
+		if (pcount == 1)
+			p->pflags |= PF_WANTSTOJOIN;
+	}
 	else if (multiplayer && !netgame)
 	{
 		// If you're in a team game and you don't have a team assigned yet...
@@ -9912,41 +9916,35 @@ void P_SpawnPlayer(INT32 playernum)
 		overheadarrow->flags2 |= MF2_DONTDRAW;
 		P_SetScale(overheadarrow, mobj->destscale);
 
-		if (p->spectator) // HEY! No being cheap...
+		if (p->spectator && pcount > 1) // HEY! No being cheap...
 			p->kartstuff[k_bumper] = 0;
 		else if (p->kartstuff[k_bumper] > 0 || leveltime < 1
 			|| (p->jointime <= 1 && pcount <= 1))
 		{
-			INT32 i;
-			angle_t newangle;
-			angle_t diff;
-			fixed_t newx;
-			fixed_t newy;
-			mobj_t *mo;
-			
 			if (leveltime < 1 || (p->jointime <= 1 && pcount <= 1)) // Start of the map?
 				p->kartstuff[k_bumper] = cv_kartbumpers.value; // Reset those bumpers!
 
-			if (p->kartstuff[k_bumper] <= 1)
-				diff = 0;
-			else
-				diff = FixedAngle(360*FRACUNIT/p->kartstuff[k_bumper]);
-
-			newangle = mobj->angle;
-			newx = mobj->x + P_ReturnThrustX(mobj, newangle + ANGLE_180, 64*FRACUNIT);
-			newy = mobj->y + P_ReturnThrustY(mobj, newangle + ANGLE_180, 64*FRACUNIT);
-
-			for (i = 0; i < p->kartstuff[k_bumper]; i++)
+			if (p->kartstuff[k_bumper])
 			{
-				mo = P_SpawnMobj(newx, newy, mobj->z, MT_BATTLEBUMPER);
-				mo->threshold = i;
-				P_SetTarget(&mo->target, mobj);
-				mo->angle = (diff * (i-1));
-				mo->color = mobj->color;
-				if (mobj->flags2 & MF2_DONTDRAW)
-					mo->flags2 |= MF2_DONTDRAW;
-				else
-					mo->flags2 &= ~MF2_DONTDRAW;
+				INT32 i;
+				angle_t diff = FixedAngle(360*FRACUNIT/p->kartstuff[k_bumper]);
+				angle_t newangle = mobj->angle;
+				fixed_t newx = mobj->x + P_ReturnThrustX(mobj, newangle + ANGLE_180, 64*FRACUNIT);
+				fixed_t newy = mobj->y + P_ReturnThrustY(mobj, newangle + ANGLE_180, 64*FRACUNIT);
+				mobj_t *mo;
+
+				for (i = 0; i < p->kartstuff[k_bumper]; i++)
+				{
+					mo = P_SpawnMobj(newx, newy, mobj->z, MT_BATTLEBUMPER);
+					mo->threshold = i;
+					P_SetTarget(&mo->target, mobj);
+					mo->angle = (diff * (i-1));
+					mo->color = mobj->color;
+					if (mobj->flags2 & MF2_DONTDRAW)
+						mo->flags2 |= MF2_DONTDRAW;
+					else
+						mo->flags2 &= ~MF2_DONTDRAW;
+				}
 			}
 		}
 		else if (p->kartstuff[k_bumper] <= 0)
diff --git a/src/p_user.c b/src/p_user.c
index 03ea25a4..fc98c4b9 100644
--- a/src/p_user.c
+++ b/src/p_user.c
@@ -8812,7 +8812,7 @@ boolean P_SpectatorJoinGame(player_t *player)
 	{
 		if (P_IsLocalPlayer(player))
 			CONS_Printf(M_GetText("Server does not allow team change.\n"));
-		player->powers[pw_flashing] = 2*TICRATE; //to prevent message spam.
+		//player->powers[pw_flashing] = TICRATE + 1; //to prevent message spam.
 	}
 	// Team changing in Team Match and CTF
 	// Pressing fire assigns you to a team that needs players if allowed.
@@ -9301,7 +9301,7 @@ void P_PlayerThink(player_t *player)
 	if ((netgame || splitscreen) && player->spectator && cmd->buttons & BT_ATTACK && !player->powers[pw_flashing])
 	{
 		player->pflags ^= PF_WANTSTOJOIN;
-		player->powers[pw_flashing] = 2*TICRATE;
+		//player->powers[pw_flashing] = TICRATE + 1;
 		/*if (P_SpectatorJoinGame(player))
 			return; // player->mo was removed.*/
 	}